If you are a "militant" Atheist for saying firmly that god doesn't exist, what's a militant Christian?
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Since Atheists don't gather once a week in buildings dedicated to Atheism - would that make church-going Christians "Uber Militant Christians?"
I fail to understand the use of "militant" for Atheists, when the same thing doesn't apply to other religions. Can you help enlighten me?
Perhaps a better choice of words would have been fundamental. Atheists even on this silly forum are very vocal about their disbelief. Mocking faith has become acceptable in all outlets of media,and social life. How many times do you see an athiest in essence "prostelying" to believers to discard their faiths.
Would you not consider that religious people find this to be an "attack" on their faith? Wouldnt this cause a negative reaction?
The question was not attack on atheism as a body.I have no problems with anyones faith. I believe in pluralism and democracy and equality for all people and their beliefs.
However it is apparant that atheists are no better than devout fundamental people and so inflamed by their sence of righteousness that every question seems like an attack.
A militant is someone who holds very firm beliefs and is perfectly willing to bend your ear about them. If you don't listen and eventually agree, a true militant is equally willing to bend your HEAD.
I understand the use of 'militant' in regards to 'some' atheists. They are the hostile variety that revel in their contempt for, in particular, Christians. I'm atheist but I support tolerance and respect for other beliefs. A bit of peace on this world is more likely through tolerance than ending religion.
An atheist is firm in the denial of God, a militant atheist is aggressive and tends to belittle the intelligence of the believer. Einstein was intelligent and believed in God. Dawkins is intelligent and rarely offensive to believers.
I fail to see how a Christian could be as militant as I and still honestly call themselves "Christian".
Personally I am not militant about Atheism so much as I am militant about confronting dangerous lies, falsehoods and superstitions that have cost human blood and treasure for centuries. If no one had ever used the Christian faith as a cause for war, conquest and murder I wouldn't have any comment on it other than it's baseless. But the Christian faith has been a plague on humanity without equal, though it may yet be that ultimately more people will live in ignorance and die in the name of Islam. So I am adamant about confronting the lies of theism, but as a veteran I find the overuse of the term "militant" problematic. I will not use force to make someone an atheist. That's how theists behave. But I will certainly use force to prevent them imposing their bronze age superstitions on me. If that makes me "militant", so be it.
Every Christian I have ever met is "militant".
Making laws forbidding any sign or display of "religious symbols or of like nature" isn't militant?
I think most here would, theist or non-theist alike.
Oh, and before you go on a rampage of Christians doing this very thing, just remember your question was asking about ATHEIST militants and I merely answered your question.
Militant atheism is "You're an idiot if you believe in God, I'm going to shame you until you denounce your beliefs."
If religious shame an atheist for not believing God, that's militant. If they hold a gun to their head and demand they convert or die, that's also militant, and frankly, I could see the atheist movement accelerate to that for "the good of the community."
I understand their reasons for doubting God, but I certainly don't think it has anything to do with them being deficient human beings.
She is the type of, literary militant ´´mind´´, who, caused tremendous armed conflicts, trough history.
They just don´t like the myth to be dissolved, so, they scream
My personal understanding of the word is that is describes a group which goes about protecting it's interests in a military manner.
As such, individuals do exist, both Atheist AND Christian - the kind of people who, upon learning that a child believed in God or did not believe in God, would set about reaffirming that belief in this or that ideology.
They may also feel it would be nessecary to attack places of worship, or on the side of the christians, treat atheists like second class citizens.
When these two sides of the same coin become aware of one another, make sure you're not in the way, please.
Sorry i didn't answer your question, but I did just get two points!!!
On to "militant" Christianity . . . funny, b/c my church hymnal actually has a section entitled "The Church Militant" (like it has a "Christmas" section, "Easter" and so on). These hymns I think describe what militant Christianity is about, or should be about -- battling the devil, the worldly mindset, and our own sinful attitudes (and, no, I'm not getting into a definition of sin here, lol). Nowhere in these hymns does anyone say to insult atheists, Buddhists, Muslims, and so on. Honestly, if I remember correctly, and without a hymnal in front of me, I don't believe that any hymns in that section directly involve proselytizing either. SO, a "properly" militant Christian is NOT, imho, a "militant proselytizer."
I would be happy to expand if I've not been helpful or if you'd like clarification. Hopefully this has made a bit of sense . . . and I haven't confuzzled the issue worse for ya.
The use of such terms as "militant" is simply a dishonest, cheap attack designed only to provoke and create a visceral reaction.
Here's an example of Christian militancy:
"I want you to just let a wave of intolerance wash over you. I want you to let a wave of hatred wash over you. Yes, hate is good... Our goal is a Christian nation. We have a Biblical duty, we are called by God, to conquer this country. We don't want equal time. We don't want pluralism."
-Randall Terry, Founder of Operation Rescue
Quoted in The News-Sentinel, Fort Wayne, Indiana. 8-16-93
Fundamentalists of every religion are extremists and therfore militant. They have also infiltrated our armed forces and essentially control our military. This is a very big problem of which the average American is unaware.
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