Can't set id for tbseparator

I have 3 buttons in a toolbar, and they have separators between them. I am using the following to define the separators:

{
xtype: 'tbseparator',
id: 'sep1'
}


Later on, after the user logs in, I want to hide the buttons for "forgot password" and "request account". This means I won't need the separators any more, but there seems to be no way to access those separators. Id isn't a config property, according to the documentation. How do I figure out how to access them to turn them off later? I can see setVisible() and hide() methods for this component, but no way to set the id.


unField.hide();
pwField.hide();
Ext.getCmp('btnRequest').hide();
Ext.getCmp('btnForgot').hide();
Ext.getCmp('sep1').hide();


This produces Ext.getCmp("sep1") has no properties




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