Amusing that atheists define themselves relative to the concept of God?

  • Isn't it somewhat ironic/amusing/funny that atheists use the concept of God as the foundation of self-identity?

    On this topic...if atheism is simply not believing in God, then we are all born atheists. So why do atheists regard themselves as being enlightened, when they have not advanced from their original state? It is religion that post-dates atheism, not vice versa.

    Atheism is filled with such oddities and contradictions. Unfortunately atheists never apply any critical thought to atheism (or natural science).

    Another example...most atheists base their beliefs on the axiom: "there's a natural explanation for everything." Of course if this is true, then there is also a natural explanation for whether or not people believe in God...which reduces atheism to irrelevancy.

    Of course most atheists are not actually atheists...they are anti-theists, not simply not believing that God exists, but rather believing that God does not and cannot exist.

    Amusing.


  • I will probably get violated for this....but:

    WILL YOU MARRY ME????? YOU ARE A GENIUS.


  • I don't necessarily disagree with you entirely, but I find it to be rather sad and not something to laugh at.


  • I never said I was enlightened. And there are so many other unfounded generalisations in your rant that I'm just not going to bother any more. I'm sure you made your point. Whatever it was.


  • Maybe atheists feel they are enlightened because they've had religion pounded into their brains, and they decided it's not for them, and not what they believe in.

    I know plenty of atheists who are great people and who are out there doing great things for the world, so maybe you should focus your effort into other things besides trying to tell people they can't make a choice for themselves to not believe in God.

    Maybe some people don't feel this connection to God. That doesn't make them a bad person. And using science to prove things makes sense to me.


  • Scared to death of us, huh?
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    "Of course if this is true, then there is also a natural explanation for whether or not people believe in God...which reduces atheism to irrelevancy"

    You're pretty easily confused by words. Didn't you notice that you're not making any sense?


  • All that typing for nothing...sad..

    Look if you want to post poems post elsewhere...

    If you have any evidence for your tooth fairy other than your goatherd written story book by all means post here.....


  • You are amused on assumptions. Now THAT is amusing to us!


  • Wow? None of the atheists actually "answered" the question? I guess they've run out of ideas? Of course that was inevitable!?


  • I see that you are amused at the Biblical killing of people just for the heck of the Bible God!!!!

    GOD THE FATHER PROFILE
    Deuteronomy 21:18-21 (NIV) If a man has a stubborn and rebellious son who does not obey his father and mother and will not listen to them when they discipline him, his father and mother shall take hold of him and bring him to the elders at the gate of his town. They shall say to the elders, "This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious. He will not obey us. He is a profligate and a drunkard." THEN ALL THE MEN OF HIS TOWN SHALL STONE HIM TO DEATH* (*the old perverts were just waiting there for the next child to be stoned to death! And only a God fearing Christian would have his/her son stoned to death!). You must purge the evil from among you. ALL ISRAEL WILL HEAR OF IT AND BE AFRAID.* (*It works all the time! Have your unruly child stoned to death in full public view and everybody else will learn to stay in line!)

    GOD THE SON JESUS CHRIST PROFILE
    Revelation 2:23 (NIV) (Jesus says) I WILL STRIKE HER CHILDREN DEAD* (*Sweet Jesus Christ himself is the one having the pleasure of doing the killing of children so he can teach everybody a lesson! The Clergy earned millions printing books about Jesus love without telling anybody Jesus vicious children killing habit). Then ALL THE CHURCHES WILL KNOW that I am he who searches hearts and minds, and I will repay each of you according to your deeds.* (*Amen! Praise the LORD Sweet Jesus!)

    Luke 19:27 (NIV) (Jesus is very excited telling this story most Christians prefer to ignore!) But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them bring them here and kill them in front of me.

    Control by fear is deeply rooted in God s Plan of Salvation So if you think that you got saved GOOD FOR YOU!!! Make sure that you pay your FULL tithes and offering on time or God the Holy Ghost will zap you on the spot and the church people will give you a decent Christian burial without telling anybody in your family. This is the New Testament killing of Christians after Jesus did away with the LAW of the Old Testament! You can t test God the Holy Ghost a.k.a. The Comforter he is very touchy Saint Paul says that many Christians get sick because of it. So if you get sick it may be that you lag behind in paying your dues to the Church!

    GOD THE HOLY GHOST PROFILE
    Act 5:9-11 (NIV) Peter said to her, How could you agree to test the Spirit of the Lord?* (*by not paying the FULL tithe and offering to the Church) Look! The feet of the men who buried your husband are at the door* (*in a Christian burial nobody notifies the death event to any spouse or relative! Have you noticed how bloody cool is Saint Peter about tithing?) and they will carry you out also. At that moment SHE FELL DOWN AT HIS FEET AND DIED* (Praise the LORD!). Then the young men came in and, finding her dead, carried her out and buried her beside her husband. GREAT FEAR SEIZED THE WHOLE CHURCH AND ALL WHO HEARD ABOUT THESE EVENTS* (*yeah it works all the time! Just have somebody killed and the rest will learn! It s the Bible way! Too bad CNN was not there to report!).

    Any member of God the Holy Trinity team puts to shame any mobster intimidating and killing anybody without mercy just to get your attention! And lastly, but not the least different

    THE CLERGY PROFILE
    Deuteronomy 17:12-13 (NIV) The man who shows contempt for the judge or for the PRIEST who stands ministering there to the Lord your God MUST BE PUT TO DEATH* (*Amen! Praise the LORD!). You must purge the evil from Israel. ALL THE PEOPLE WILL HEAR AND BE AFRAID, AND WILL NOT BE CONTEMPTUOUS AGAIN.

    Luke 16:17 (NIV) (Jesus said) It is easier for heaven and earth to disappear than for the least stroke of a pen to drop out of the Law.

    Jesus said that HE DIDN T COME TO CHANGE THE LAW!!! But the clergy says that Jesus fulfilled the Law whatever that means and that the Old Testament is no longer valid!!! SHAME ON JESUS FOR LYING !!! Christians would much rather listen to the clergy!

    Nothing promotes religion better than the story of a few killings and some coercion to keep the Christian population UNDER A SMILEY CLERGY CONTROL! Believe it or not, most Christians honestly believe that because they are still alive God must love them! So that is why they don t pay much attention to any of the above. Today we have Clergy led Christians promoting the Bible to make it the Law of the Land! Not even the NAZIS were that bad!


  • huh...I also wonder why All civilizations around the world have different gods. Yet individuals who set there own belief do not have a name for it(AKA atheism).


  • Smugness is unbecoming.

    And I am not defined, as a human being, by my atheism. The concept of "god" is not the the foundation of my "self-identity."

    I don't even think about the idea of "gods" when I am not reading or posting here on R & S or when I am not occasionally worrying about what new evil might next be inflicted upon the world by religious nutjobs.


  • Well now that you have exhausted your character limit with false generalizations let me tell you a thing or two.

    1)Many of us discard the idea of a "supreme being" or a "deity" not a god per se.

    2)That some thing pre-dates something else is not enough evidence that what came first is more primitive or less advance. It goes unsaid the many advances the Greeks and the Romans had in their times that later in the Dark Ages was overlooked, which by the way post-dated these. One big misconception people have about evolution is that what pre-dates us is inferior in some form... Maybe less complex but not inferior, because we don't know that evolution is linear and with an upward directionality.

    3)Of course there is a natural explanation why humans believe in god. Psychologist have not pinpoint it yet, but we're getting there. Let me tell you it goes somewhere along the lines of looking for meaning and answers, and of course fear.


  • And you're basing your generalizations off of...


  • Feel better?

    Honestly, I avoid the label atheist as much as I can. Not because of what you said, but because I find it to be rather lacking in its ability to describe me. It's just one small part of who I am.

    "Atheism is filled with such oddities and contradictions."
    Examples?

    "Of course if this is true, then there is also a natural explanation for whether or not people believe in God...which reduces atheism to irrelevancy."
    I don't think you know what words mean.


  • I doubt there is anyone out there whose self-identity is based on the fact that they are an atheist. It is just another aspect of one's self. I therefore think your 'question' is ridiculous. You say that atheism is filled with oddities and contradictions... what exactly are you talking about? Please provide me with some examples. And whilst on the subject of oddities and contradictions...have you read the bible lately?

    And yes we are all born atheists, unfortunately some of us are bombarded with silly superstitions as children (ever noticed how children believe everything you tell them?) and as we grow these beliefs are reinforced by the deluded sections of society. I have no problem with anyone believing whatever they like but brainwashing children is one of the reasons why I have such a problem with religion.

    You say atheists never apply any critical thought to atheism or natural science...ahem, that's the whole point of atheism, critical thought, we question everything and only believe in something which has some credibility, correct me if I'm wrong but isn't religion based on blind faith? Critical thought is something that is definitely lacking in religion.

    "We are all atheists about most of the gods that humanity has ever believed in. Some of us just go one god further."


  • I was born an atheist, and raised a christian, I became enlightened shortly after reading the bible when I was 10, this is also the time that I realized Santa was also a fairy tale.


  • its kinda like the double standard with blacks and whites. Black people can call whites crackers, honkies, wiggers or however we would like to term it. But as soon as a white calls us the "N" word...they are in for it....
    Atheist can denounce God all day long and all we can do is try to convince otherwise. But say something about the rediculousness of refusing to believe in God and your in for it.

    I would rather believe in something and live a good life, and end up dieing and finding out its ture so im saved from hell. And if I die and it wasnt real...well atleast I lived a good life helping others and never letting go of hope.


  • Can't you find anything better to do than insulting other people and their beliefs (or lack there of)? So they choose not to believe, so what, that is there issue and has nothing to do with you. Ask a question next time.


  • Pardon? I do NOT define myself by my non-belief in your invisible sky-pixie.

    You are the one who needs to get a life.


  • i will tell you now.

    90% of atheists are idiots
    95% of theists are idiots.







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